A couple Thoughts

Less than 2% of multiple servers is utilized that is why those servers are all on 24/7 wasting a lot of power. I wish there was a way where a farmer could move data from one of his nodes to another just like moving data from one drive to another. I guess if the entire farm with multiple nodes worked as one big node then we could do that. Additionally, maintenance would be easier and without any down time. In such a case your overall capacity provided would increase or decrease but your farm/giant node will always be ON as long as your available “UP” capacity is say 50% more than your utilized capacity. When more capacity is needed farmerbot can turn on nodes. Maybe this will be a good system when farmers are paid only for utilization.
does the data stored on TF nodes have any redundancy? Or is everything stored in one node and the consumer will lose all his data if that one node is turned off? Can we use the ScPrime model?

Threefold emphasizes a broader vision of a decentralized internet, including computing and networking, whereas ScPrime specifically targets cloud storage. There is an ongoing discussion on our forum regarding your concern. I highly recommend you read through the post by clicking on the link provided here

In fact, 10% of the 97% of the idle part should be open to the public free of charge. 1 month of free hosting should be provided for everyone. This will help promote the project. Other hosting companies have become brands in this way. Everyone who owns a domain should be given a 5GB trial version for the first month. In this way, tens of thousands of sites can be hosted in TFT and promoted. And we test whether it will work stably when tens of thousands of sites run on the system.


This idea has been mentioned before and it warrants being discussed again.

The fundamental features needed to accomplish this should be available at some point. Another question though is whether this should be up to the farmer or only up to the user. Since nodes are not homogeneous, users might not like to find that their workload was migrated to a node with slower CPU or SATA instead of NVMe disks, for example.

In theory it sounds great of course. In practice you are talking about a rather complex and difficult domain known as “distributed systems”. Deploying existing, battle tested distributed systems on top of the ThreeFold network is of course possible today and can address the fundamental issue of individual nodes being unreliable. On the other hand, trying to make groups of nodes look like one big node from the perspective of a user deploying VMs would be big innovation. Not to say that’s not possible, but it’s not what we’re trying to build right now.

By default, no there’s no redundancy. And not every use case requires it. Users can supply their own redundancy as needed.

You can run basically any storage protocol you want on top of the ThreeFold network. If you’re talking about using a distributed storage protocol as the root filesystem storage for VMs, then it’s a very different question though. These protocols don’t generally speaking provide appropriate performance for that use case (some do, in the proper context which would generally be in one LAN).

For what it’s worth, I offer small testing grants to anyone who shows up with a genuine interest in testing the project. In my experience the first month’s payment is usually not the thing holding people back from bringing meaningful business to the network though.

One thing that’s important to remember, and related also to what I wrote above, is that the ThreeFold network is not a managed hosting service. To provide a somewhat familiar experience to most people with a website, you need a layer on top. That’s not to mention users of services like Squarespace and Wix who might not even be legally able to migrate their site’s design assets, even if they were motivated and otherwise capable.

That said, if someone wants to build a project around providing a managed hosting service on the network with a “first month free” deal, I’d certainly support a TFT grant from the treasury to (help) offset the cost of those first months.

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Being a hosting service provider is exactly what threefold should be. Establishing the public internet is a dream, not a reality. Since we do not discuss the facts and play polyana, the project is stagnating and not progressing, crypto is an anarchist structure, after there are hundreds of thousands of developers and websites in the system, the use of the network by those who do not do legal work strengthens our hand in the game, it does not cause any harm, blockchain has provided cost and convenience to financial systems, what will web3 provide in its current form, threefold selection There is no reason for this, you can install 25 WordPress units with 1 euro from existing hosting companies. In the threefold system, one WordPress installation costs 4 dollars, no one works for the project just so that the public can have internet, and there is no incentive mechanism.

Nobody is interested in using the 32PB data space on the network, states control the internet in the world, a trillion dollar infrastructure cannot be changed by just dreaming. If there is to be an internet revolution, it requires bold moves. The important thing is to make moves that will make a splash, think that everyone who has 1 million TFT in their account gets the services cheaper. If 100 companies buy 1 million TFT, 100 million TFT will be purchased, which means millions of dollars, it is a move that will encourage farmers enough, chatgpt does not work directly in threefold, but It can be run in WordPress, in the current situation there is no reason for any company to choose Threefold.

If you want to capture the market, you need to capture individual users. We can no longer keep people together with slogans like “we will establish the public internet and save the world”, we must encourage those who come to the project and offer a space where they can work, I mean developers.

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The global data center market size is expected to reach US$ 640.77 billion in 2032, with a CAGR of 12.10%, from US$ 229.23 billion in 2023.

If only 1% of this market share is taken, it means a volume of 2 billion dollars. This is the market to target. If we aim for this, the project will have 2 billion dollars in its coffers. Then, both our technological and financial infrastructure and staff will be ready to realize the mission of public internet.